Wednesday, June 4, 2014

"Politicrap" and the companies that just won't listen

I have a VERY serious rant, about political & "nonprofit" mail.

Last November, after two full years of trying to explain to my father-in-law that he cannot give away literally tens of thousands of dollars per year to various organizations, we had his mail permanently routed to our house so we could deal with his mail ourselves.

Little did we know exactly how much there actually was. To begin with, we were receiving between 5 and 11 pieces of mail PER DAY requesting money. And for six full months, for EVERY SINGLE piece of mail we received, I called the number listed, explained that they were asking for money from a vulnerable senior on a fixed income with memory issues, and asked them to stop sending mail.

Every single one of them... let me repeat that, EVERY SINGLE ONE of them apologized profusely, and promised that they would immediately take him off of their mailing lists. Nearly all of them cautioned me that it would take 6-10 weeks for his name to be completely erased due to pre-printed labels... so I labeled the envelopes, waited a full 12 weeks, and then had my husband repeat the calls to all the companies who were still sending us mail - using his Power of Attorney to demand that they stop contacting us. After he made a single call to each company, I began calling again with the new mail, this time demanding to speak to supervisors, and giving people an earful about what I thought of their continued mailings, and repeating the demand that they stop sending letters while reminding them that my husband WITH POWER OF ATTORNEY had already insist that they stop. 

Last month, SIX FULL MONTHS after we started having his mail forwarded, this is what one month of mail looks like. All bills and typical sales-ads have been removed, this is JUST the religious & political mail.

That's 30 pieces of mail; nearly one for every day of the month. Every single one of them, requesting his money.

By the numbers, these are the companies that have refused our repeated requests to stop harassing an elderly VULNERABLE ADULT, AFTER being told of his memory issues, and that he's living on a fixed income not able to donate to ANYONE ever again due to the 5-Year Lookback Law... AND after each and every one of these has REPEATEDLY promised me they will NOT be sending any more mail in his name. 

The political groups that do not honor their promises are: 
* Republican Leadership - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $30.
* NCPSSM - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $12.
* Aaron Miller for Congress - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $25. 
* Dave Hann for Senate - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $10. 
* Torrey Westrom for Congress - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $25. 
* Mike McFadden for Senate - sent 2 letters, asking for at LEAST $50 total. 
And bringing up the wall-of-shame for political mail was
* Rand Paul... a senator from KENTUCKY - sent 3 letters, asking for at LEAST $150 total! 

In religious groups, this is who refused to honor their promises: 
* Wycliffe - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $25. 
* Navigators - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $20.
* Life Outreach International - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $27. 
* Open Doors - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $25. 
* Biblica - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $10. 
* Chosen People International - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $15. 
* International Fellowship of Christians & Jews - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $17. 
* FRC Action - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $25. 
* One Hope - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $50. 
*  Focus on the Family - sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $9.95. 
* American Family Association -sent 1 letter, asking for at LEAST $35. 
* Hillsdale College - sent 2 letters, asking for at LEAST $35. 
* Campus Crusade for Christ - sent 2 letters, asking for at LEAST $50 total. 
* ACLJ - sent 2 letters, asking for at LEAST $90 total. 
And bringing up the shameful practice of failing to deliver on their promise to stop exploiting the elderly was
* Billy Graham - who sent 3 letters all asking for money... while not suggesting a specific amount. 

I have heard people say that these mailings are random. My response to that is, baloney. I have not EVER received mail from ANY of these associations. And even while all this was coming in for my father-in-law, we STILL never received a single piece from any of these companies, in our own name. 

Shame on you. Shame on you ALL. Your practices of preying on the elderly and vulnerable, ESPECIALLY after being TOLD an individual is a legally defined vulnerable adult, disgusts me.

I only pray that those who read this, take note of these groups and refuse to support them, as they obviously do not honor their own word. Perhaps if enough people were to take note, they would be forced to honor their own word and not exploit the helpless.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have sent an email with several suggestions:
1.sticker on mailbox stating: NO JUNK MAIL.

2. Register online at DirectMail.com and complete a National Do Not Mail form.

3. DO NOT OPEN 1st Class Mail...DO Cross out the address & bar code on 1st class mail, Make an arrow pointing to the Senders address & circle the 1st class postage & write "refused: return to sender" & put into mailbox.

4. Register with Direct Marketing Association (DMA). The DMA is an online tool developed to help consumers control the mail they receive. When you register, you are able to decide the type of commercial mail that is sent to you. You may choose to receive no unsolicited mail or only those pieces that interest you. This means that after some time the mail you receive will reflect your interests.

Register for a list. It may sound counterintuitive, but by contacting the Direct Marketing Association's Mail Preference Service, you are putting yourself on a "Do Not Mail" list for their members. It does cost $1, but that will be a buck well spent.

You must reregister with Direct Marketing Association and the Mail Preference Service every 5 years: Mail Preference Service, Direct Marketing Association, P.O. Box 643, Carmel, New York, 10512.
keep track of who you have contacted.Report any noncompliant companies.
4. When you register with this service (for a $1 fee), your name will be put on a “delete” file and made available to direct-mail marketers.

Mommy

Mama Housemouse said...

Yep, we've done all this. It's changed nothing. They're highly persistent, and over half the people who contact him are exempt because they're "non-profit".

Seriously, we've tried it "all".

MrsMilkman said...

I think all those suggestions would work for marketing/sales mail but the trap seems to be the "non-profit" nature of politico-religious organizations (and the boundary does get very blurred here). The Direct Marketing Assocaition service website says: When you register with MPS, your name and address are placed on a "do-not-mail" file. All DMA members are required to run their list of prospective customers against the MPS file, to remove the individuals who have registered with MPS from their mailings...Although registration with MPS will help to reduce the amount of unsolicited mail that you receive, it will not stop all unsolicited mail. You may continue to receive mail from companies with which you already do business and from non-DMA organizations which do not use MPS. In addition, you may continue to receive mail from local merchants, professional and alumni associations, political candidates, office holders...and others.
So I think this is a great idea if your problem is with entities trying to market/sell something, but not helpful with non-profits seeking donations.
Also I suspect that individual organizations may be deleting his name from their proprietary list, but then re-purchasing it with mass listings of "likely prospects." I doubt that they are ethical enough (or willing to put in the work) to cross-check newly purchased names from the names they have been recently asked to delete. And with his **long** history of prolific donation practices, he has got to be a prime prospect on may lists.

darthjenni said...

I am sorry it to me so long to find you. Are you sill getting junk mail? I am going through the same thing right now and started a blog about stopping junk mail. Tell me who is still sending you stuff and I will tell you who to contact to make it stop.

Granny T said...

I'm sitting at my dining table with 30 PEICES of mail ,yesterday's. Iv gone on line to all the religious & POLITCAL, organizations, Iv bought $40 worth stamps, mailed them, also the " no postage nessary" ones, Iv refused sender, Iv called all I could get their numbers,off line, web sites. I'm crazy. 20 at least every day, just because I volunteered $20 a mo to Wounded Warriors & $20 to a conservative political org, a yr ago. Now I get 15 to 20 letters aday. I'm 75 yrs old. Iv spent at least 3 days & $40 + registering with DMA. And u say it won't stop it? My back is killing me, doing this. I can't even go off over night, cause my mail box won't hold 2 days gone. HELP

Granny T said...

Today Iv been going on some of their websites & clicking on ,"contact us"& sending emails asking them to take me off their postal & email lists. Hoping ALL,Iv been doing since 8 am today will cut it down at least some, in the next 6 weeks, which the ones I called said , would stop. Some even said it would take 3 or 6 mo to stop. I'm going to post office when I mail some & ask for help, but it's the gov, & they haven't ever helped me.lol, laughing to keep from crying.

darthjenni said...

Granny T, Stop the monthly donation to Wounded Warriors, and who ever else you have sent money to. Next come over to my blog, I can help you out, https://drowndinginmail.wordpress.com/start-here/

You can do this. It will take time. The chances are the people at the post office won't be able to help you. Their livelihood depends on junk mail. Keep track of who you have contacted today. If you get junk mail from them in 8 weeks contact the DMA and file a complaint https://drowndinginmail.wordpress.com/2015/01/23/drowning-in-junk-mail-how-to-opt-out-of-junk-mail-using-a-dma-ethics-complaint/ also contact your state attorney general and file a complaint with them. You are being harassed and the people who are harassing you need to be called on the carpet for what they are doing to you.

If you have access to a smart phone get the PaperKarma app. All you do is take a photo of the mail and the program stops it for you.

Anonymous said...

Non profit has only one job--to ask for money! Once a person gives, it is all over...give to one blind organization, all of a sudden 10 foundations start mailings...my dad gets 100 to 200 solicitations a day...this ot not a lie. The mailman bundles his mail for him nd he had to open up a P.O.box for his politcal, veterans, religious mail asking for his money. It is almost a full time job for me to try and get this stopped...but drowning in jink mail is a site I go to daily for help.?good luck to all of us in trying to stop all this junk mail

Anonymous said...

Go to FEC and type in List Rental. There you will see the Companies that are getting paid to send those political mailings out. Once you find the name, it's should be no problem to find the info on the company. Let me warn you, If you send $10 dollars to one, say for example Prolife, Your name is generated on a list that will be rented out for a fee to all fundraiser campaigns that believe in Prolife. And that's how the cycle starts.

B Davis360 said...

My god, the poor woman I take care of, 886 years old, and literally, every piece of mail is asking her for a small donation. On her fixed income. Promises of getting rich with winnings, or threats about taking her social security income. Left alone, she will send them all money....as she has done before, then...sadly, shes out of funds way before her next monthly SSI. DO not mail lists simply dont do anything to stop it. Im going to put a very small amount of some dog poop smeared across the page...mail it back everytime. Illegal? hell I dont care...they are trying to take away an elderly womans only income. Bastards! Of course, 10 minutes alone in a room with the offenders would do much better....but for now, they will open dog shit. Arrest me, I could give a shit.haha literally!!

B Davis360 said...

My god, the poor woman I take care of, 886 years old, and literally, every piece of mail is asking her for a small donation. On her fixed income. Promises of getting rich with winnings, or threats about taking her social security income. Left alone, she will send them all money....as she has done before, then...sadly, shes out of funds way before her next monthly SSI. DO not mail lists simply dont do anything to stop it. Im going to put a very small amount of some dog poop smeared across the page...mail it back everytime. Illegal? hell I dont care...they are trying to take away an elderly womans only income. Bastards! Of course, 10 minutes alone in a room with the offenders would do much better....but for now, they will open dog shit. Arrest me, I could give a shit.haha literally!!

Anonymous said...

My mom is 85 and she believes all this gabage mail. It keeps her awake at night and she sends donations despite all of our warnings. She simply won't believe us when we tell her it iaa scam mail. These organizations prey on the vulnerable and, in particular, the elderly. There should be a way to prosecute them.